This document is a work in progress, meant to stir up thought to have a more balanced perspective on the topic. This is understandably a hard topic for those who genuinely want to do things the Lord's way in the midst of so many stances concerning this in ministries. In summary, I believe it is clear that females are also called to public ministry and offices of the "five-fold", but also that God calls men to special roles of leadership that they are anointed to carry.


Males in submission to God give place for a special anointing God has for men, as men are especially built to carry certain weights that God has made to match with the inherit difference in the soul of man. Those who are born again have put on Christ, where our deep internal identity is no longer race or gender, but we still have male and female souls (different from spirit in the context of John 3:6), and of course different biological bodies. Married men are to exemplify Christ's relationship to the church with their wives, giving of their own selves. 1 Peter 3:7 refers to the wife as the weaker vessel, who when honoring the calling of the head of the marriage as the anointed leader (inferring that God gives the male unique unctions and responsibilities), the wife is thereby strengthened to more fully fulfill her unique callings. 


This is understandably a hard topic based on tradition, culture, translations, and assumptions amongst varying understandings of what the scriptures say. As with any topic, I believe it is important to consider all scriptures that relate to a topic, along with the genuine fear of God, to rightfully discern what the Lord is saying through His Word. In Romans 16, the KJV translated diakonos as "servant" regarding Phoebe, rightfully so as a minister of God serves (gives of self to) others, yet around the male names uses "minister" and "deacon". Paul commended Phoebe to them (that is, a public stamp of approval), not a male, directing them "to assist her in whatever business she" had need of from them. This doesn't prove from the logos that she taught, but she was entrusted to serve and at least to some extent, to lead (being sent, and entrusted that she had something to carry forth that required others to help her). God gives gifts for the greater good, and for building up the body of Christ, not to be hid under a bushel. In Acts 21:9 we read that Philip's four daughters were not married, and prophesied (also inferring ministering to others). Within the context, though not provable based on the written words, it could be that they ministered to Paul. Before Pentecost, there are prophetesses mentioned (though prophesying doesn't mean one is called to the office of a prophet). Deborah was anointed as a prophetess and judge with a good report from God, who wasn't even born again. ...And the children of Israel came to her for judgment (Judges 4:5). As mentioned earlier, before Pentecost, the Spirit of God would still come upon people. Ministry is meant to be by the Spirit. This is all the more possible for the Church, as it is written that we are made able ministers by His Spirit. Would God diminish the role of women after they are bought by His blood, members of His body? Psalm 68:11, NASB: "The Lord gives the command; The women who proclaim the good tidings are a great host:"


These statements above are important factors to keep in mind with 1 Timothy 2:9-1. Some argue that women didn't have the same access to education as men (generally true in the former Jewish customs), and may have been foolishly talkative during teaching in lack of understanding thereby needing to be told to learn in silence (possible - I just saw a female blurting out in addition to what the pastor said, and heard the Lord say "I did not permit her to speak", but of course men have made the same mistakes), but the verses 13 and 14 clarify as stated before that men and women are beautifully unique creations, where men have a certain strength in their calling as men. Though Adam and Eve had a special covenant of intimacy, they are the two deliberately referenced in this scripture. In v.13 we read the deliberately placed scripture that Adam was first formed, and then Eve, who God made to be the right complimentary help, as mankind was called to operate in dominion through God. In v.14 we read that it wasn't Adam, but rather, Eve who was deceived. Adam had received the word from the Lord to lead from, not that Eve didn't have access to hear from God, but Adam was anointed to lead, and received the word to lead from. This does bring into question possible faults concerning Adam and the fall, such as shouldn't he have protected her, but this verse says he wasn't deceived. I believe the story of the fall does point to the vulnerability of the male for not obeying God. Eve's response to the serpent shows us that she knew of the command, and she should have submitted instead of pressing for her desire. There is protection in submitting to authority, those anointed to protect.

Note: v.15 is not saying they have to make babies to be saved, but rather, they even have access to God's great salvation from the painful effects of the fall, such as we read in Genesis 3:16.


Those who submit to Jesus as Lord can perceive when it's Him working through others, and cooperate with His order. They can judge righteous judgement. How foolish would it be for a son to set a prideful forehead against the wise advice of the mother anointed to mother him? The meekest person, the one who fears the Lord, who leans upon God, who is the most submitted to God is the one most fit to minister and lead, for they allow God to lead and minister through them. Who is more fit to preach, the man submitted to an institution (and the relative doctrines) before the fear of the Lord, or the person submitted to God? Who is more fit, a man leading a seeker submissive / crowd pleasing business, or a woman ministering regularly in miracles and salvation directly testifying of and glorifying Jesus Christ with her words and lifestyle? Is she not permitted to teach with a man in the room? But the self-appointed (or by humans or demons) man who professes a Jesus carries a greater weight of validation than her? I have seen women in ministry have trouble carrying certain burdens that men are generally less shaken to carry, but have seen undeniably amazing fruit of ministry through women. They too are a new creation called to be continually filled with the Holy Spirit. Again, who is letting Him lead? The same Holy Spirit Who directs me to preach the gospel to someone also tells me of women with five-fold ministry titles. I believe part of the balancing issue as we mature into the fulness of Christ is the misuse of authority through women who God did not tell to operate authoritatively in ways that they did... but when a male minister makes a mistake, him being a male isn't a crutch used to try to esteem him as disqualified. What about 1 Cor 14:26, is that only for men? And reading on, can only the males prophecy publicly?

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